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More Admins

I think in light of the whole argument thing we should leave them a while. We're doing OK for admins for the time being anyway. Chris talk - mod 15:35, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


I figure we should give Magical Trevor a go as an Admin for two weeks. Edits seem to be of a generally good standard, dedicated etc. We need members from lower years anyway.

Chris talk - mod 22:48, 6 February 2010 (UTC)


Caption Competition: we've had no new photos for years and it's just not that well used. If you can find some decent photos you can resurrect it, but I don't think we have a large enough user base. Chris talk - mod 22:37, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I think we made the site as a bit of an experiment to start with, and we're pretty surprised it's still running! Long may it continue..


With regards to promoting people to Admin status: there are a couple of candidates but I don't think establishing an arbitrary number of posts is going to be particularly effective. How about if someone wants to be an Admin they should ask one of us, as the two active Bureaucrats, and we can then discuss it and promote them if we both agree? Obviously the more Admins we have, the less of an accolade it is, and we only really need a handful active at any one time. Let me know what you think.

Chris talk - mod 11:08, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Also, I think we're doing OK for Admins at the minute. Let's give it a couple of weeks and evaluate the situation then.

Chris talk - mod 18:06, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi again

Re: Campon something

A week is fine in my opinion. Chris talk - mod 08:13, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


Hi there. First off, many thanks for keeping an eye on the wiki. My name's Chris, I'm one of the founder members but sadly not an admin. I left in 2006 so it's been a fair while! Just to say I really appreciate what you've been doing on the site. I haven't had much contact with Dave (who runs the site) recently, but if you send an email to the wiki account I'm sure he can sort out the admin details. I'll try and get in touch too.

Just to add.. if there are any pages that need deleting or people who need banning, drop a message on the Moderation Requests (as you have been doing) and/or on my talk page and I'll sort them out when I get the time. Thanks again!

Chris talk - mod

Helping Out

Sure, I can help around. I know a few things I could add and cleanup.

I'll go along with any plans you have to improve the site.


--Twistedspoon 18:14, 15 November 2009 (UTC)


It's real nice that you're so enthusiastic, but you have a hell of a superiority complex. Branding every other person who doesn't agree with you 'Sockpuppetry of Idiot123‎' is just silly and uncalled for. It's a website, not the meaning of life. Chill.

Eve 12:13, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Undo it, report it, ignore it. When it comes down to it, you don't have the power to ban IP's, or even look at them, so you'll never really know. It's rude to brand people you don't know 'sockpuppets', whatever they may or may not of done, especially when you have no concrete proof.

Eve 11:01, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

An invite

BRGSman will you and fellow editer Twisted spoon join my team to clean up this wiki Camponhoyle 20:40, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


Please could you make me an admin. I only have a low rate of edits because you have done most of them.Camponhoyle 20:00, 12 December 2009 (UTC)


It is an attack on what mrs sellens said in 07n first lesson and she is the victim of alot of abuse.I am afraid that the teachers may intervene and ban us all.Campon Hoyle your friendly neighbourhood editer 21:47, 12 December 2009 (UTC)


Well done on becoming a BEUROCRAT!!!! Magical Trevor 09:55, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

OH MY GAWD IT'S 2007!!!!

Oh... actually, no it's not. I'm just having 2007 flashbacks.

What's with all these new accounts?

Eve 11:01, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Not false

I did not make an acusation i just wanted to monitor the editer to prove it wasnt him.Campon Hoyle your friendly neighbourhood editer 14:30, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Say Whut (and yes, that is spelt wrong on purpose, before anyone says)

Ok, so you make a page, tell two users to argue on it, then ban the users.


Eve 20:09, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't that kinda the point of the page...

Eve 20:21, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

No... the point of me pointing out those account was to show you the similarities with what was happening back in 2007 and what's happening now. This wiki always has outbreaks of drama

Eve 20:32, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I think... you'll never know. Could be. But we thought it 'could be' a lot of people last time. There was no way to prove it so we just ignored them until they got bored.

Eve 20:45, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

uh sure...? You'd have to ask the people who run the site though...

Eve 20:52, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah that's cool. Thanks

Eve 21:07, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Something Smells Fishy...

Hi BRGSMan. I have seen some edits by someone named Servant Camponhoyle, and I'm starting to believe there is at least one link between this editor, and the one known as Camponhoyle. Care to discuss? Thanks, Sellers (WithAnN) 19:11, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

I believe it is connected to a account on wikipedia that vandalised the site. It has no connection to me other than the people who created it knew me. By all means ban them if they vandalise but dont ban me as my i.p. address is not the same, so that will prove it was not me. Campon Hoyle your friendly neighbourhood editer 19:12, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

In fact, I believe the account are actually linked to SellersWithAnN and you BRGSMan, as both me and you know this person and we both know that BRGSMan was the original creator of ServantHoyle on wikipedia. Campon Hoyle your friendly neighbourhood editer 19:14, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Camponhoyle, fair enough I created that account, but I have put that behind of me and that is why I am an Admin today so you can count me out. Sellers with an N could potentially be the culprit, but to be honest, I'm not exactly sure. BRGSMan 19:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Obviously, it isn't me Mr Camponhoyle, as I am still editing pages and am not banned. No matter what has happened in the past, this is still happening now, so I think you should be put under watch until this is all sorted. Thanks, Sellers (WithAnN) 19:22, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


Why would i risk getting my account banned when i am trying to become an admin and have got over 250 edits that i would have to start again if my account was banned.Campon Hoyle your friendly neighbourhood editer 19:24, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

No you wouldn't. The ban is not neccesserily permanent. BRGSMan 19:25, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


First off, IP address' are all very nice and everything, and they do work for banning quite a few people, but the fact is, I could get free legal software that would tell you that I was editing from Canada, when, in fact I would be ediing from my house (not Canada). So as I said yesterday, you should just keep editing out any abusive edits made by a user, and keep banning the account. It is very easy to pretend to be someone else on the internet, and you're very unlikely to resolve this completley.

Eve 19:30, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

For example, take a look at my IP for this edit. It should be America or something, when clearly, I am not in America.

Eve 19:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

There's no government law stopping you, it's just the capibilities of the website. Or your privilages. Either way, meh. Point still stands.

Eve 19:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to stick my nose in but you could argue that the ip address when used in conjunction with a isp could be used to trace an individual thus breaching the Data protection act of 1988 which makes the public distrubution of any infomation relating to the wareabouts of any person living in the united knigdom withought there or the responsible adults in the case of an under 16 year olds permision illegal.Campon Hoyle your friendly neighbourhood editer 19:58, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


Hi BRGSMan, i am interested in becoming an admin to help improve the BRGSWiki site. I have ties with the school and will be able to help update pages. Hopefully you will be able to help me and put a good word in for me with the bureaucrats. Many thanks, BRGSHelper

Hi there, I would definitely interested in making you an admin, but you will need a couple of hundred edits to prove yourself. Also, remember to sign your coments with four tildes ~ otherwise it is considered rude around here. Many thanks BRGSMan 20:07, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


I would like to know why I am banned when i have done nothing.Campon Hoyle your friendly neighbourhood editer 20:15, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with the new signiture.Camponhoyle Your Friendly Neigbourhood Admin - Me! 21:26, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


Congrats on the status upgrade, and it would be really cool to become an admin/mod whatever. Thanks =)

Eve 18:39, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Hihi, Sorry I was being terribly rude not sorting that out a week or so ago: I've been a bit busy with the whole degree thing. It'd be great to have you on the bureaucrat team and provide a fresh perspective on the whole wiki, indeed feel free to implement changes to policy and the agenda of the website. It's difficult for many of us who've left already to be up-to-speed on everything and to know what's acceptable or crossing the line. I shall continue to keep the wiki technically supported and funded. All the best, David DavidB

Thank you, my friend will now have peace of mind. TheJanitor 21:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

You're very welcome. Any other help? Let me know! Thanks BRGSMan talk - contribs 21:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


Calm down! The page was deleted and obviously somebody created it again. There's nothing wrong with it this time so I'm NOT deleting it. |||| Whats wrong with my tildes? Any other help? Let me know! Thanks BRGSMan talk - contribs 17:42, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Admin Pages

Why? That's just pointless. Surely it's LESS likely to be vandilised now that I can undo any vandilism myself with one click.

Eve 22:02, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Since when? =(

Eve 22:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Now that I deleted the redirect to my own page, can I un-protect it?

Eve 20:28, 6 February 2010 (UTC)


Please could you consider making me and admin as I have contributing sensibly Magical Trevor 12:37, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I woul also like to ask if i could become an admin.Camponhoyle Your Friendly Neigbourhood Admin - Me! 14:18, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Red Links

There's been a lot of deleting of red links, which yeah, makes the page look better, but seeing a red link could encourage people to actually create the page, and if the page does get created, it means not having to go back into all the pages and put the links back in. Just wondering what you guys think.

Eve 16:47, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Mr Chambers

That's about all I can think of right now, but I'm sure something else will spring to mind later

Eve 17:08, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Why did you give the other guy a copy of the old page of CONNOR ARMSTRONG! I thought I'd told you to delete it! TheJanitor 21:50, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: Connor Armstrong page. It has now been deleted, please keep it that way. Chris talk - mod 08:33, 9 February 2010 (UTC)


BRGSMan hoyley has never stolen a bag in his life so dont lie it was freddie and ozzy tubbzw fair does tubbzw

what are the four tidles for? tubbzw

I have one aswell now! look:

how about now?Thanks! [[User:Tubbzw|tubbzw]] 16:38, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

"BRGSMan" you really need to find better things to do after school.Thanks! 21:31, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Magical Trevor

Agreed, he can stay as an Admin for now. Chris talk - mod 07:18, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


I'd have preferred that you'd asked first. OK, let him stay as an Admin for now and we'll see how it goes. Chris talk - mod 22:32, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Rumours of blackmail. If he's genuinely been blackmailing you then rescind his Admin status. If there's something going on between you then sort it out in person please. Chris talk - mod 16:17, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Mr Proudman

BRGSman, I think you had better email me before reinstating this entry again.

email me at please

Privacy Policy

Sounds like a good idea, the site is meant to be about school events, and we have had instances in the past about teachers' private lives being posted (which we removed). I think a good policy is basically if it didn't happen in school or on a school trip, it doesn't go on the website? Chris talk - mod 16:06, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


OK, I didn't make that clear (d'oh). I meant we shouldn't post things about teachers' previous schools, where they came from, why they left etc etc. Better to play it safe, especially as we had some issues with a certain teacher's life before they moved to BRGS. There's no need to change it about all of the students..

Chris talk - mod 23:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Privacy Policy - each generic offence (like where someone was born, where they used to live etc) probably counts as one case of vandalism, so three equals one day ban. If someone starts posting allegations about someone's private life then it's a personal attack so one offence = one ban. Chris talk - mod 19:04, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

P.S. Also, I think things like their musical taste and which football club they support should be left on, as I can't see any major harm in it being there, especially as most teachers (used to be) reasonably open about all that.

Woah, changes much? Anyway, in regards to the privacy policy, posting people's previous schools? Does that include primary schools? Because that would involve a lot of changes to a lot of pages (including my own) and I really don't see how it could be an issue in regards to privacy.

Eve 21:10, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw all that. It makes sense for the security to be tight on teachers, but with students surely the rules should be slightly different

Eve 21:14, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and deleting the secret page on JHM? It's still a page with content on, just not one of the 'normal' pages

Eve 21:16, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Well... *shrug* It was a page with a lof of imput put in. Ah well. Your choice. And are we gunna go through all the pages and delete primary schools then?

Eve 21:27, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok, this is gunna take a while...

Eve 21:30, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, if others are willing to help. What exactly needs to be taken out of pages? Primary schools... what else?

Eve 21:33, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

So what would you take out of this page: ?

Eve 21:38, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Also, I've started the Templates page, as a database of sorts for each template. I think keeping the number used to a minimum would be helpful. If you make any more can you add them to this page so that all Admins know when to use each one. Chris talk - mod 14:56, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I've promoted Alan to Admin status (on the standard two week trial), he asked and seems pretty competent. I'm sure he'll be OK.

Chris talk - mod 12:54, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Wow, a year 7 on the wiki... anyway. File uploading disabled, I need to upload a picture for my stub template Template:Stubs


Woozle44 Admin

Woozle44 would like to be an admin. I'm happy for that to happen, if you agree then you can start them off on a two week trial and see? Chris talk - mod 08:41, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

How many edits now

Credits for creating touch?

Welcome Template

I tried the shorter code, but when I previewed the edit, it came up weird, so I thought it best just to copy and paste the full code...

Eve 19:40, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

I saw the notice you made. Perhaps instead of 10N for 7N, you could try 010N for 7N or 2010N for 7N. I hope this helped. Dangerousx 22:05, 29 September 2010 (BST)

There is a mistake. If you search 'teacher' and you are redirected, Mr Ventress is under the 'M' section. If you search 'teacher' though, the order is correct. Dangerousx 20:46, 29 September 2010 (BST)

Thanks for your info on becoming an Admin and I have added you on facebook. Please could you give me advice on what more I should do to become an admin. Also please could you not block the IP adress 217.***.***.*** as this is one of the BRGS network IP's and no one can edit the wiki at school when you enable autoblock on people who broke the guidelines at school. Many Thanks, Taylornator

Taylornator 20:34, 29 September 2010 (BST)

School IP addresses are supposed to be blocked anyway, and in the spirit of sharing our reciprocal love with school, their filters are supposed to block This is because of the volume of low-quality real-time MySpace-style edits, contrary to our yearbook style, like:
 OMG Lucy fancies Jake
 OMG Lucy fancies Jake
 OMGZ0RZ Lucy Rlly does fancy Jake
 OMGZ0RZ Lucy Rlly does fancy Jake
 U is lame!
 ... [etc]
 17:47 . . Clizard (Talk | contribs | block) deleted "Some body" (content was nothing important/not in-style)
Not that there aren't useful edits from school as well, but these are greatly outnumbered. The bad edits can be a particular pain to clean up. I'd also rather we not compete with lesson time :) I think there's a note about this on my talk page. Clizard 23:07, 29 September 2010 (BST)

Unfortunately Clizard, it is possible to access and edit the wiki from school, and i presume thats where that excessive web traffic was coming from back in June (that way whoever doing it cannot run out of monthly allowance!), although I don't edit at school, I think all those vandals from the other day most likely did it in one computer lesson. Any other help? Let me know! Thanks BRGSMan talk - contribs 18:10, 30 September 2010 (BST)

Good idea

Good idea, protecting the notice board so only admins can edit it. Dangerousx 19:00, 29 September 2010'

Dangerousx Messages

Thank you. Justice triumphs. Dangerousx 19:33, 7 October 2010 (BST)

I'm almost certain that Miss Robinson is Mrs Robinson and that they are in fact a member of staff. Please explain why you have undergone such changes and while you're at it please delete Wear Pink Ugg Boots to Steal The Limelight. Thanks Dangerousx 17:58, 7 October 2010 (BST)

I think that User:Zen0421 is the same person as Zhenxiai, the person you blocked on October 10th. I hope this helped. Dangerousx 16:38, 12 October 2010 (BST)

User:ElainaBraman‎; is another account posting external links to casino sites and typing irrelevent information about casinos. I think they should be banned and have such pages deleted. Thanks Dangerousx 18:55, 15 October 2010 (BST)

Hi as i know you are the only bureaucrat regularly active. I have noticed a lack of admins patrolling the wiki recently and would like to put myself forward as a potential candidate for fullfulling this role. I have been on the wiki since 2008 and have almost 700 edits which i think is one of the best of the regularly active users. Please consider Thanks. Camponhoyle Your Friendly Neigbourhood Admin - Me! 20:18, 17 October 2010 (BST)


Hi! I know both Camponhoyle and Dangerousx have applied to become an admin recently and I thought I'd throw my name into the hat (metaphorically speaking). I feel that I could give a lot more to the wiki in an elevated role and, although I don't have a large edit count, I do have a good quality of edits and a good track record. Thanks, 1885 says hi! 21:01, 17 October 2010 (BST)

General Messages

This was a satire on bitmap graphics. ¬¬¬Clizard



Just as a heads up, I've altered most of the contact details so that any problems that are uncovered by teaching staff should be addressed to either myself or David. It's not fair on you to be in the firing line. Keep up the brilliant job with the edits, but please refer any problems that arise in school onto us. In fact, tell the school staff to contact us directly if they have any further problems, I imagine they'll be less inclined to argue with someone they have less influence over. It's completely unfair of them to hassle you over it, and I am considering contacting them directly to complain.


To All Moderators

This is just a general note to all of the moderators - could you please make sure you check your spelling and grammar when editing? It does look unprofessional when the admins can't spell correctly. Most new browsers should have spellcheckers built in.


Chris talk - mod 21:24, 2 November 2010 (GMT)

Thanks again, and I do have a question. What exactly is meant by an unpatrolled edit? Thanks, Dangerousx 21:28, 27 October 2010 (BST)

Thank you, for the compliment as well as the promotion. Dangerousx 21:07, 27 October 2010 (BST)

I have had regular German lessons in Room 22 myself actually. Dangerousx 12:40, 26 October 2010 (BST)

Okay change it back then. Any other help? Let me know! Thanks BRGSMan talk - contribs 12:43, 26 October 2010 (BST)

Do you know when it will be decided whether User:Camponhoyle, User:1885 and I should become admins?User:Clizard said he would look at the situation last weekend, but he didn't mention anything on that topic. Thanks Dangerousx 16:50, 26 October 2010 (BST)

Hi Dangerousx, I'm not sure when the decision will be made. It is quite difficult to decide because there are 3 bureaucrats with different views, I think we are all unsure purely because I'm on a lot, and we think we might not need any more admins because I can clear up whats wrong. To be honest I'm not sure when it will happen, I remember when I asked to be an admin, I had to wait around a month. Any other help? Let me know! Thanks BRGSMan talk - contribs 16:54, 26 October 2010 (BST)

Changing Page Names


I constantly find myself with a need to change page names. I can not see any way to change the names of sub articles, for example the sub-section in 08G, About the groups pupils have ,made in musical futures. This was originally given, what I feel, was a bad name. I changed it and now it seems to be working but it seemed a complicated route. Is their a simpler way to change a name of a page that will carry over the changes to any other attached page?

Cheers PurpleGuy

Hi Purple Guy, yes there is a simple way to change page names, it is using the move button. Unfortunately, this ability is only available for admins, so you can either go the long way around by creating a new page, cutting and pasting the content and putting a redirect on the old page, or you can simply ask me or another of the moderators. I hope I answered your question! Any other help? Let me know! Thanks BRGSMan talk - contribs 17:13, 26 October 2010 (BST)

It has, thanks!


I had Mr Fitton for food tech last year, so I thought he still taught it. Dangerousx 17:11, 26 October 2010 (BST)

I was going off what it said on his page and what I knew from school. If he taught you on a regular basis then undo my edit and add food tech to the subjects he teaches on his page. Any other help? Let me know! Thanks BRGSMan talk - contribs 17:16, 26 October 2010 (BST)

BRGSMan Template

That template you created is always going to show the same date and time. Dangerousx 17:32, 26 October 2010 (BST)

Hmmm I can't find a way around it, suppose I will just have to use three tildes: Any other help? Let me know! Thanks BRGSMan talk - contribs. The time and date will be on the place where I wrote the actual reply so it isn't too bad. Any other help? Let me know! Thanks BRGSMan talk - contribs 17:39, 26 October 2010 (BST)

Year Templates

I feel I might have missed something, but why aren't we using this template for year groups and forms?

It looks a lot tidier than the system of just an intake year, then form, especially for intakes from 2007-2011, because it's easily confused with year groups...

Eve 12:45, 29 October 2010 (BST)

Well I've just tried it on 8N and it doesn't seem to work, could you possibly show me how to use it? Any other help? Let me know! Thanks BRGSMan talk - contribs 12:48, 29 October 2010 (BST)

Never mind, I tried it on my own page, and it got too complicated as there were already people from previous years in the same category.

Eve 12:53, 29 October 2010 (BST)

Yo BRGSman how many edits do you have totaling now Magical Trevor 20:04, 2 November 2010 (GMT)

My preferences says 2777! Any other help? Let me know! Thanks BRGSMan talk - contribs 20:05, 2 November 2010 (GMT)

As an update: we intend to trial a new experimental bug tracking extension with a view to enabling anonymous "bug" reports that will make it easier to have the wiki corrected. It will also be of benefit for general improvements and tracking forward progress. This will be implemented shortly and introduced fully if it proves to be satisfactory system. We will also be implementing an EULA-style display of the statement that a user views before editing.

Recent issues at school

Don't worry about it. I think the school is over-reacting really, but let's just play it safe in future. Cheers for all your help up to now, keep it up :).Chris talk - mod 19:25, 14 November 2010 (GMT)

(this is addressed to all moderators)

I have been informed of another side of events, and there are suggestions that some moderators have been abusing their power and making unacceptable edits. I will dig further, and if I find that this is the case, I will be permanently blocking accounts of any offenders. However, I am also prepared to offer an amnesty - if you are willing to own up to any breach of the rules, now is the time to do so. We have to take matters like this seriously, as it undermines the authority of the administrators, and puts us in an extremely difficult position.

On the other hand, if you are innocent, and the allegations are not substantiated, we can continue as before.


As an update, an example has been given as the page of Rebecca Finley. I've deleted it, but I'm sure you can see why it was an issue - the comments are potentially offensive. It does breach the guidelines as set out on the Vandalism page - i.e. that comments cannot be potentially offensive. Please make sure you're aware of this in future.

User: Sharples Arnold

Thanks for sorting it out! 1885 ProjectsTalk PageSuggestionsUser PageFeedback

123456789 says

DangerousX is very persistant with me, it is him who is the problem yours 123456789

Gary Holt

Gary Holt's page is littered with spelling and grammatical mistakes, personal attacks?, vandalism. It is also a general 'mess'.

I would suggest that it needs looking at to sort out useful information from the rest. I am not too sure about the guidelines on these sorts of issues so I would be thankful for your opinions on what should be done and what is within the editing guidelines.

PurpleGuy 19:37, 21 February 2011 (GMT)

User Pages?

I notice "Mariajones10" ,which is likely a spambot, has edited the user page so it now features an evaluation on 127 hours... Given this is a user page, I would like to know if i can still remove it. It contains 2 unnaproved external links and is clearly not written by Mariajones10. Can this be edited in the same way as any other page? Thanks,

PurpleGuy 19:52, 4 June 2011 (BST)


Will you please unlock the Andrew Wilson page, DangerousX is Lying, I am writing the truth, perhaps you should be more careful who you make admins. While your at it you could just delete it and end the matter. Nothing is better than something.

Yours 123456789

The Paqe has been deleted now, I hope we can now end this issue. Thank-you for your non-bias in the matter, however my above oppion still stands Any other problems and I will let you Know

yours 123456789